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You are absolutely right. A federal jury found Yassein Abdulfatah Said, 59, guilty on one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of concealing a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. Prosecutor pounds away. Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. They returned with a guilty verdict and a sentence of two life terms. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Todays arrest of their father, Yaser Said brings us closer to ensuring justice is served on their behalf.. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. False. There are a number of issues in the case, Kelley said in a letter to his associate, Christopher Darden, including the competency of counsel, prosecutorial misconduct and, of course, compelling legal error by the court.. The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. It was like living in your room and getting to go to your kitchen for one hour a day, remembers Larry Wright. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. According to Marsicovetere, state programs should be focused on intervening to help those with mental illnesses at the earliest point possible. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". This article is little more than fiction. Did you personally attend the trial? What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? Lie detectors are pseudo science. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. What evidence is there she actually left the state? Just one example. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. I do. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Great catch. "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. The case was eventually abandoned. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. 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Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. Until next time, cheers. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. Amina Said Mother Patricia Owens Said Charged With She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. All rights reserved. While Patricia does not qualify for medical parole, she can still file for executive clemency or compassionate release, which she has already done and which was met with more resistance from Gov. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. Browns downtown Los Angeles office demanding that he grant Patricia Wright clemency. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Patricia Kopta Had Been Missing Since 1992. She Was Found in The evidence was all there. Not everything is a conspiracy. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! No charmed life. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. Locked up. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Patricia Giddings pleads not guilty A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Under supervision of a doctor, 39 hair specimens were removed, recorded and logged. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. She said that she has no idea why her ex-husband killed her daughters. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. Its barely visible in the picture. "As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. 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Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Yassein Said, 59, is guilty of conspiring to hide his older brother, Yaser Said, as authorities sought him in connection with the New Years Day slayings. Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. 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It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. She believed she was chosen as one of Gods 144,000 bond servants on earth, and gave up all her other hobbies, such as dancing, to devote her life to spreading the word of God. You say by definition! Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. Stop. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. Stop it.. They are total bs. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. Conflicting versions. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Jealousy was the motive. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. Sad discovery. I dont think so. Alfey liked to look at model homes, so they decided to stop by an open house that was located at 13810 Redberry St. in Moreno Valley, California. WebHis ex-wife and the mother of the teens, Patricia Owens, watched Said as the judge sentenced him. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. They are a joke. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? "Clive was a skilful and inventive actor with wide experience, as his successful career proved," she said. Patricia said she didn't have plans to attend Weinstein's trial since she was spending time with her 16-year-old daughter, Harlow, but praised Rosanna's "bravery." 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. Look into it. Disagree with Patricia As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. Not gender neutral. Blasczyk said she is pleased with the outcome of the case. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. She had money put aside. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. 8/9/2022 Yaser Said was convicted of capital murder Tuesday in the 2008 fatal shootings of his two teenage daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said. The trial was taking so much of my time. The District Attorney got this one right. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Patricia Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. It seems so, according to you. Combination locks. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. "If she could do that as a woman, my God.". The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. Because of these two prior offences, Patricia was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole under Californias Three Strikes Law. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. Hair we go. Alfey went on to say that he noticed that the woman hosting the model home was following them very closely the whole time that they were there. Carter can be reached at ccarter6@gmail.com. If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. So, lets take your response one step at a time. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or emurray@freepressmedia.com. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. Mark and Patricia McCloskey Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. The LAPD alleged that Patricias motive was to get Jeromes insurance money, which had a value of $30,000. Patricia Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. WebShe is as guilty as her husbandshe KNEW that her husband would kill these girlsshe even STATED that he would kill the girlsand yet she lied to them to get them to return to Texas Jenkins' assailant Patricia Prue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Friday after deciding to plead guilty the day before to charges of aggravated attempted murder, kidnapping and conspiracy. All that remains is the conclusion of an appeal that Prue's husband Allen Prue has made to the Vermont Supreme Court following his October conviction in Jenkins' murder. Im dying. Yaser Abdel Said, 65, was found guilty of the 2008 capital murders of his daughters, Sarah Said, 17, and Amina Said, 18, according to the Dallas Morning News. Its nine minutes into the video. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. The men harbored Yaser Said inside an apartment in Bedford, according to court documents, and he was nearly captured after a maintenance worker spotted him in August 2017. Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. Hoist by my own petard! Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Armed homeowners Mark and Patricia McCloskey stood in front of their house in June 2020, confronting protesters who were marching to St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson's Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Dame Patricia said she was "deeply saddened" to hear of her former co-star's death. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Allen Prue told police he and his wife "wanted somebody they could play with," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren has said. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? who pointed guns at protesters plead Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. Your email address will not be published. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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Emailus. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. And she will have to answer eventually. Judge Richard T. Fields will be presiding over the case and Public Defender Ruby Ramirez will be representing Patricia for the Riverside County Public Defenders Office.

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