Washington and California residents have filed a proposed class action in which they object to being asked to participate in the American Community Survey, which enquires about certain demographic details more specific than those central to the decennial Census. Someone said they can find all our info on the internet anyway. Don't give in. I would like to inform all participants that your lines have been placed on a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session of today's call. During the last survey I chose not to fill it out. It sure the hell is. If the stories in this thread are true, those census workers are scum. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. Here are the facts I discovered: Some of the questions asked in this questionnaire are so intrusive that I would not even give this information to my best friends or relatives. While the long form was administered once a decade to a sample of households receiving the universal short-form census, the ACS is an ongoing survey of 3.5 million addresses annually (295,000 homes/month). Census worker says "I am with the census.". The following Q&A is provided as a resource to those who want to better understand their rights in respect to the ACS. He asked if I was refusing to answer the survey. Seriously, do I really have to answer and return the american community survey? You wouldn't be getting personal visits and/or phone calls from these Census workers right now. Unfortunately it does not state that the number of people is the only thing allowed to be collected by the census. It's a breath of fresh air. Received two survey forms, three letters and two visits at my door and awaiting a third based on a lovely letter I received yesterday announcing yet another visit. My paper shredder has been complaining of hunger, so I'm going to feed the "survey" to it when I receive it in the mail next week. The ACS, sent annually in recent years to a sampling of more than 3 million U.S. households, collects detailed information on population and housing, helping to update the information gathered in. We do live in a relatively remote area, and none of them can make sense of maps they are provided with. A mortgage deduction should indicate I own a house; a 1099 with either unemployment compensation or reported income would indicate whether I am unemployed or self-employed. Hence, you have answered the only question required by the constitution and you might have even increased the possibility for more representatives! I never thought at age 47 that I would ever see our country go this far the the left. It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. They think that if they exert a little authority, show you a badge, write a stern letter, that you will be too afraid to tell them that they have no right to subject you to this. He asked if I would consent to a phone survey and I could decline from answering any questions I thought were too personal or intrusive. I told the lady that I regarded the ACS as some kind of personal info fishing scam by criminals masquerading as the federal government and again stated that I had more than Constitutionally complied with the short form questions. It's just like a bunch of whiners. [3] The purpose of the decennial census is to apportion the 435 members in the U.S. House of Representatives among the several states. To those who say they can't publish anything like that, I have seen it. Ask yourself this question. She informed me if I did not answer her questions, eventually the county sheriff would come. The funny part is the local grocery store has this job post up.
Their bosses are going like it even less. www.rutherford.org. I have had them endlessly harass me on the phone after I filled the form out two times and talked to someone they sent to my door. When we allow them to manipulate us, we turn into "sheeple.". Over a college survey they want me to take. I feel kind of sick too. in the '90s the Commerce Dept decided that I was a resort or apartment complex owner and harassed me to fill out a survey detailing my expenditures on repairs, income reports etc. No one I have talked to since I received this survey has known anything about it. I was mailed two ACS forms which I promptly threw in the trash because of the personal nature of the questions. The census is satanic. The calls started today. Once on Saturday, once on Wednesday, three times yesterday, and so far once today. I tried to assure her that this indeed was not a prank but she was too busy being rude and just kept talking, finally telling me to call my senator, which I did. My 15 year old son was home at the time of the census worker stopping by. Person 22. You can find no instance of someone being 'required' to respond, or being fined for not doing so. Proud to be American but wondering where we will be as a nation in ten years? Title 13 of the United States Code, however, requires that the Census Bureau keep this information confidential and subjects employees who violate this confidentiality requirement to a fine of up to $250,000 USD, up to 5 years imprisonment, or both. the Supreme Court's decisions over the years has established that the rights to privacy is a basic human right, and as such is protected by virtue of the 9th amendment. But I can promise I'll promptly feed it to my hungry paper shredder. 4) If they do not agree to answer any personal questions, assume the Hannibal Lecter voice and say "Tut, tut, tut. I am young and strong and will not put up with this sort of thing. What we have here is a violation of HIPAA. 1. They are not! It has been done since 1790, and is mandated by the Constitution. There is an actual law on the books, but that law has never been applied. Fine. I will not yield. Movies. In 2000 I placed a large sprinkler by my front door. Quid pro quo," then slam the door in their face. I will not be giving some 18 year old pimple face unemployed moron my personal information. Employees will be invited to complete a feedback form at the end of a strategic planning session . Any thoughts? It is widely known that in a five-year span the Bureau lost at least 672 laptops. God bless America and individual freedom! Plaintiffs do not allege Census Bureau representatives directly threatened them with prosecution, nor do they submit affidavits to that effect, Judge Estudillo wrote. They even sent me a Federal Express package telling me how important the information they still wanted to collect was. 0 Total panelists in the survey 11,699 Completed interviews I 10,417 Partial interviews P 0 Although they have a mandate and articles and codes under the US code, this is all for the census not the ACS. this implies you have obligations to help the government count but not to answer every intrusive question they might ask. I have little doubt that the ACS data is already in Israel's possession. How do I know these census folks are trustworthy? This was mailed to me approximately three months ago. But obviously they want to know everything about you. This city hasn't had its streets fixed in years and we always fill out the census. Protect yourselves and your privacy, don't complete the form! ), so did my 80 year old mother in another state. Somewhere in the process we got some messages on the answering machine asking us to call their 800 number and refer to our "case number." I have written to the senators of my state and didn't even receive a 'canned' response. It actually notes in it "Your response to this survey is required by law (Title 13, U.S. Code, Sections 141 and 193).Title 13, as changed by Title 18, imposes a penalty for not responding." And for every intentionally false response to a question, the fine is $500. Please, that's where this money is going in there pockets. Anyway he proceed to stretch as much as he could so he could look into my living room. I am a prisoner in my own home. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. [3] U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3. The Census sites say as much if you read them, something like 'well wee don't really want to fine anyone'. Enumeration. Instead, you are encouraged to call one of the Census Bureau's two telephone centers directly to determine the legitimacy of the call you just received: Jeffersonville, IN: 1-800-523-3205. I just moved to a suburb outside of Detroit after years of living there, and its strange but I also got 'grilled' the last time it came around. Fiscal Year 2024 Letter to OMB Director Shalanda Young encouraging the Administration to prioritize funding for the U.S. Census Bureau and 2030 Census in its FY 2024 . Now the latest.
We will ask the rep to make it clear what will happen if we don't answer the survey, then verbally accept the consequences. I asked them what does my birthday have to do with enumeration count of my household? However, we will make it quite clear we will accept the risk and continue to take this stand. Active resistance is the order of the day. When I did return it, I left off my personal business. In 1960, the gap was . OK then, so why waste my time asking questions? I sure am glad I ran across this site. I will give the information to those who really need it to improve my neighborhood, city, county, etc. I had already been a victim of identity theft. I will not comply. We are so fortunate to live in this country. Why don't they survey me to find out my opinion on illegal immigrants, unemployment benefits to people who have barely held a job down in their life, giving child care benefits to unwed mothers who just keep popping out babies to numerous baby-daddies, who will never pay into the system so that I can collect Social Security when I want to finally retire after 50 years of non-stop work,or putting this country into mega-debt while giving money to impoverished countries that will never help us or appreciate us. I am looking into who passed legislation to approve this questionnaire. If one of these goons shows up at your door you should immediately get out your camera phone or camcorder and put it right in their face and turn it on. He didn't know what to think about that (needed to check the law), and took no action. don't let this happen! New cases and investigations, settlement deadlines, and news straight to your inbox. I propose: 1) Grabbing your video recorder and recording the entire exchange. One fact I see missing is that they say you are cheating you state and city out of government funds (our tax dollars). [12] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Fertility.pdf. They would have to take you to court, and they haven't done that EVER. In a 13-page order, United States District Judge David G. Estudillo found that the federal government never subjected the plaintiffs, who refused to take the American Community Survey (ACS), to a genuine threat of prosecution. As a result, the judge wrote, the plaintiffs claims are not ripe for review., A key contention between the parties was whether the government communicated to the plaintiffs a specific warning or threat of prosecution over their refusal to fill out the ACS. 7) Get the left wing indoctrination crew out of our education systems. I, too, have been harassed by the Census Bureau. A truly honest, upright government does not hire goons and bullies to do any work for them. In addition, some point to the possibility of human error as a security concern over such personal and confidential information. this person got in the building somehow! Came back the very next day, and told my husband that he has full authority to open it and if we don't comply then we will be fined anywhere from $100-5000, and the marshal would be accompanying him tomorrow to arrest my husband if we don't comply. Perfect. And to poster 201: the survey is much more intrusive than asking how many people live in your household. Nevertheless, fines and legal action are technically possible. We keep refusing them and they keep threatening us. You are! I work for a defense contractor, and when I applied for a security clearance, there were way fewer questions, and much less invasive than were on the ACS long form. And the big 2010 census is coming and they can't have ANY negative publicity. In order to do that people response is required. The ACS is better than a surveillance on the American family. U.S. Census Bureau Notice and Consent Warning You are accessing a United States Government computer network. And you just know that if I answer a survey about college, they will just send me another next year and keep tracking me. The times they are a-changing. The Founding Fathers wanted the power to stay with the people - but it took a revolution to secure it. I received the ACS and the regular Census. When they ask for race, that's what gets me. And it would not fabricate stories in order to confiscate private information from the people it should be serving. The U.S. Census has nothing to do with Obama nor most of the accusations you are flippantly throwing up online. Just open the door, answer their questions, and they will forget about you and your insignificant existence for another 10 years. If all they want is a head count, all they have to do is count social security numbers! You are a perfect example of why people should be outraged by the ACS. I have worked as an enumerator. I am a 64 year old woman, living alone. Poster 235 is on to something: maybe my neighborhood can get a new school, a new hospital, and a new fire station. I just had hip surgery, when the buzzer rang this evening (Saturday 6:30p.m.) Empowered by Congress with greater powers to amass information about citizens, the Census Bureau introduced the ACS in 2005. A: Those who do not answer the ACS risk repeated overturesby mail, by phone and in personfrom Census Bureau employees seeking to compel a response. !Now I have to pay for temp workers who have my private info to sell overseas maybe???? If every household in the nation received this survey at once, there might be more of any outcry and uproar for our government to cut out the nonsense or face a revolution! 3) If by some chance they go for it, ask them the most embarrassing, asinine, or silly questions you can think of. Anytime you give out information, you can bet it gets compromised. Do some research for "0810" without the quotes and you'll find that OMM no. I've been in some pretty terrifying situations and I don't scare that easily. Please give that a shot, I'll find me a constitutional lawyer and challenge the constitutionality of this law, any survey or law attached and the constitutionality of this survey as well as the census survey. So glad I found this site. Read our FAQs or call us for more help with the survey. Three days later, the supervisor came out. I said it sounded like a great idea. The 2019 American Community Survey counted 139.69M housing units, up 1.15M from 2018, and up 7.90M from 131.79M in 2010. As long as there are enough people who didn't fill out the census? They insisted that the ACS did not receive it and wanted the information again. A: The American Community Survey, a questionnaire produced by the Census Bureau, not only asks about the number of persons in a household but also asks a broad range of questions about the activities of the people living in the household. When I saw the personal and invasive nature of recent Census, I was irate. Don't be paranoid, it's only a few questions a lot of people already know about you anyway. You don't want your personal information in some library, online or in an archives someday do you? Our world leaders are puppets, and the puppet master is greed. Q: What is the American Community Survey (ACS)? Anyway, this guy knocked twice or three time so I ignored him. I don't even tell my grown kids this much information. Information from the survey generates data that help determine how more than $675 billion in federal and state funds are dis Continue Reading MA Pennell The census is not going to do this or that. Statistical analysis I have a meeting with my congressional representative this morning to let him know that I am not returning this form, and to hand him personally the form that I was sent. I have a right to not be harassed in my home. Way too much info requested (stuff I wouldn't tell my friends, let alone the government!!) All I can think of is that every time one of us gives in and allows this servant to go unchallenged, then they get bolder, prouder, and we get used to it and then we are eventually abused by them. Just throw the census form in the trash. this is the letter I sent the census bureau. To complete the survey on the internet, visit https://respond.census.gov/acs. Census Bureau Table. If they are "anonymous" why do they need my name, telephone number and race? What they dont tell you is that the information is available to a long list of private corporation, research agencies and think tanks, who use the information to justify and pursue their own agendas. According to some accounts, those recipients who chose not to return the form and did not respond to phone calls or private visits appeared to be hassled the least. Despite this request, my wife has subsequently been visited by an unannounced and uninvited representative of your Bureau, and I was later telephoned by him. This survey is intrusive and i will not answer it! Maybe that is why only one out of every 480 people receive it. And, further, we cannot wire tap calls coming into this country from suspected terrorists, but we can create bogus laws to try to make us fill out the ACS which provides more personal information than any wire tap could on american citizens. It's supposed to be confidential. The IRS has all my income info, and frankly, it'd take me hours to look up all the financial info they want (monthly mortgage, gas, electric, utility bills.) Then I whistled up the dogs who escorted him tenderly to his car. Referring to financials, I told them to ask the IRS. I will not answer and/or return this form in spite of threats of fine, imprisonment or court appearance regardless of where the threat comes from. We just got the letter today, to expect the questionnaire. This was way out of line and uncalled for! "; "How many times a day do you fantasize about blowing up a federal building? My first question is: which section authorizes ACS? I hollered at the door that "I'm a crippled senior and DO NOT open my door unless its my kids". she yelled through the door announcing her name & bla bla "census, have some questions for you"..I'll just leave my card & you can call me next week!". We are so far from what our forefathers prayerfully constructed as a government that it will take a real miracle from heaven for a national revival now. I will also show it to any of my neighbors who might know my name and ask that they not answer any questions about us from anyone. We had a census worker come to our door who started asking personal questions, until my hubby finally said that's enough. Whether I'm white, black, hispanic, etc., or whether I own or rent my home, makes as much difference to the count of legal U.S. citizens as not having to show your legal or illegal status as a U.S. citizen. When I answered the door she said who she was and had a survey for me. While the survey states that my address was selected at random for the survey, they have my address and unlisted telephone number, which they call regularly. I have yet to fill one out. And this has gone to the supreme court and has been upheld on account that it is important to get accurate numbers. I called his supervisor. Any discrepancies, intentional or not, could result in an IRS audit of your returns. If I received the ACS survey in the mail, I would probably just put down the number of people in my household, but there is nothing on the 10 question survey that any Tom, Dick, or Harry can't find out on the internet quite easily. That is just crazy. of Justice. We got our second ACS in the mail along with a follow up postcard. I was hot and told her I have her number and I will call when I'm ready. When you are counted, it helps to decide the number of representatives a state can get, as well as determining federal funding for schools and hospitals. It's is reminiscent of Hitler's rise to power. Isn't this trespassing? In the end, the Census Bureau has the legal authority to conduct the survey and legally has the option of imposing fines for non-compliance. Continued refusal may lead to additional visits by a supervisor. And my financial business is my business, provided I pay my bills and taxes which I do. Please post legal options for readers when census takers are sharing personal information with neighbors! When I got the second form I mailed it back stating I filled it out already and do not need to fill it out again. 2018] IN DEFENSE OF THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY 113 surveys.18 After the 2000 Census, the Bureau chose to eliminate the long form and use a yearly survey instead.19 In 2006, the Bureau fully implemented the ACS throughout the United States.20 The ACS is now conducted yearly, and includes much of the same data requested by the 2000 long form.21 In .
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